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The delevoping of the feminine -e ending
m (-e endings)
(The delevoping of the feminine -e ending)
::i don't know how many times i told you, and i don't know why you insist on writing the same thing here over and over. i told you that i support the idea of creating a "standard" language. however, this is not the place to do it. this is a place where we write down knowledge in languages that exist and people understands. you just wasting your valuable time here if you want to create a standard zazaki. this just a wrong place for you to hang out. i hope you get the point. [[User:Xosere|Xosere]] 05:54, 30 Keşkelun 2008 (UTC)
 
== feminineFeminine -e endings ==
It is outrageous to deface existing articles. Who excludes the -e endings, he/she should even write his/her own articles. It’s free to each one here to write on his own dialect, but please don’t deface existing articles. The only change can only be on the grammar and spelling in accordance with the dialect in which the article is written.
 
In addition, we had repeatedly discussed if the e-ending would omitted from words, that’s changing the sex of these words. Accordingly, should also be changed all other extensions of the words in question. Otherwise it will bring us much trouble, as it is already occurred through some changes. It costs a lot of work and effort to correct these errors. --[[User:Mirzali|Mirzali]] 14:32, 24 Tişrino Verên 2008 (UTC)
 
= The delevoping of the feminine -e ending =
 
My theory of the delevoping of the feminine -e ending in Zazaki, in comparison:
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid #aaa; border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor="#ECECEC"
!
!Zazaki
!Kurdish
!Turkish
|--
|Obliquus feminine|| ez cenek'''e''' vênenan || ez jınık'''ê''' dıbînım || ben kadını görüyorum
|--
|Obliquus feminine|| xebera roc'''e''' || xebera roj'''ê'''||günün haberi
|--
|Obliquus masculine|| ez cıwamêrd'''i''' ra gênan ||ez jı camêr'''î''' dıgırım||ben erkekden alıyorum
|--
|}
 
We see here, that Kurdish (Standard Kurmanji) gets in the 2. Case (Obliquus, Bükün) this -e ending in the form of -ê.
 
Let show us further:
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid #aaa; border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor="#ECECEC"
!
!Zazaki
!Kurdish
!Turkish
|--
|Rectus||o , a ||ew ||o (kişisel zamir)
|--
|Obliquus masculine and feminine||e'''y''' (o+i = oy > ey), a'''ye''' (a+e) ||w'''i''' (w + i), w'''ê''' (w+ê)||onu
|--
|}
 
Wee see here:
 
* Zazaki Obliquus Masculine: -i
* Zazaki feminine for Obliquus and Rectus: -e
 
*Kurdish Obliquus Masculine -i
*Kurdish feminine only for Obliquus: -ê
 
In Southern Zazaki there was an e -> ı change as in many other words, therefore wee see words like rojı, gamı, dewı etc.
 
And in some dialects this -ı comes only as in Kurdish and as in Central Zazaki in Obliquus.
 
So we have two Options:<br>
- "e" only for the 2. case (obliquus)<br>
- "e" for both cases as in northern and many southern dialects
 
For both cases makes Zazaki more simple, one can differ better what is feminine and what is masculine. But its the decision of the zaza people. I only want to show that "e" in Northern is the most old variant for feminine ending, and that the -ı in Southern is a changed verison of it. --[[User:AliErsoy|AliErsoy]] 19:00, 25 Tişrino Verên 2008 (UTC)
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